~Jim
2004-04-24 00:25:10 UTC
This is quite a long post.
Let's see if this can spark some good discussion.
I've been diggin into the geotia and necronomicon. I'm not well versed yet,
just skimming through the materials, but it was complicated and very
interesting indeed.
There's a recent debate on some forum regarding the potency and authenticity
of The Necronomicon Spell Book (Simon) and I'm NOT going to touch that.
However, has anyone has any experience in conducting the conjuration? I read
that the result was fast acting also it is said to be dangerous and I read
that some people really end up in a nut house, even dead. Some poltergeist
activities also noted for about a week.
Some other stories just really crack me up, funny, freaky but at the same
time, intriquing: (these are some negative effects of Necronomicon ritual)
QUOTES:
"(Have to admit thought that I ask to a great degree from idle curiosity - I
have had a go with Simons, I failed miserably and it was NOT PLEASANT! and
it took me half a year to find someone skilled enough to help me get rid of
those entitites. It was during these six months that I started to understand
phrases like "worse than death".) - Anyway, the point is that even if I am
not going near that shit again in the near future I am still curious when
someone has found a safer way to deal with those forces. "
=========
"I have very bad experience with Necronomicon.If you ask me,stay away from
it.
Yes,there is a lot of power in it,but the consequences can be very difficult
or at all not possible to be removed.
I know a person,who was involved in it.He is now possessed by the entities
he invoked.He has constant fears,that someone else is rushing
his aura,inner space,that someone is "stealing" "energy fragments" from
him etc.
Two friends of mine made scanning on him and discovered very deep posession.
2 or 3 years ago I evoked,with a friend of mine,Azatoth.I felt very
primitive energy.That's why I will not repeat this.
Another friend of mine told me,that the Necronomicon
entities(Azatoth,Khtulu),are egregors,i.e. they are created from the
collective human fears,anger etc.But they involve energy from the
chaos.That's why the consequences can very difficult be undone. "
=============
IMHO the Spell Book is dangerously constructed. Read carefully what you're
supposed to say to the spirits in the spell. You allow a force of unknown
origin to enter you - really not very smart.
Even worse, there is no banishing in the Spell, which basically means you
will walk around possessed afterwards. It is further really tricky to banish
the forces using the standard methods, even if you have them down pat.
==============
And yes I know about the watchers, I was almost killed by one. When I was a
"dabbler" I conjured the watcher to protect the cirlce while I worked with
one of the spirits in the nec. I didnt offer the correct sacrifices the the
watchers, and didnt do the conjuration of the fire. After all was done I did
the LBRP pretty flippenly (this was 3 years ago, and for 1 year after this I
didnt even say the word "occult) I stepped out of the circle only to see a
shadowy figure charge at me. I felt like I was goin to have a heart attack
and got VERY dizzy I then had a panic attack and my mind went totally blank.
I heard a voice as crearly as I hear my mom talking to me now to "GET BACK
IN THE DAMN CIRCLE" I quickly jumped back in and shouted to the heavens "MY
GOD KNOWN AS THE FOUR LETTER WORD, PLEASE I BEG OF YOU TO SAVE ME SAINT
GABRIEL PLEASE HELP ME!" I then got my bearings about me and shouted the
invokation against spirits who attack the circle. I did the LBRP again and
the BRH. I was alright after that, and it was a year until I again got back
into cerimonial magick, or any magick for that matter. So yes, I know the
full deadliness of the watchers. You can flame me all you want for what
happened to me, but in retrospect I am happy that that happened to me. It
gave me a sence of what can happen to those who dabble. Im real eager about
walking the first gate, but im approaching it one stride at a time, trying
to get every single think right.
============
Yeah. Oh, buddy, if you find yourself getting accidentally possessed, while
using rituals, there is a thread on exorcism techniques in the Off Topic:
Occult forum. This is a just in case scenario.
If your possed how would you have the will to exorcise your self hitman?
==================
A really dark spell?
--
Jim
Let's see if this can spark some good discussion.
I've been diggin into the geotia and necronomicon. I'm not well versed yet,
just skimming through the materials, but it was complicated and very
interesting indeed.
There's a recent debate on some forum regarding the potency and authenticity
of The Necronomicon Spell Book (Simon) and I'm NOT going to touch that.
However, has anyone has any experience in conducting the conjuration? I read
that the result was fast acting also it is said to be dangerous and I read
that some people really end up in a nut house, even dead. Some poltergeist
activities also noted for about a week.
Some other stories just really crack me up, funny, freaky but at the same
time, intriquing: (these are some negative effects of Necronomicon ritual)
QUOTES:
"(Have to admit thought that I ask to a great degree from idle curiosity - I
have had a go with Simons, I failed miserably and it was NOT PLEASANT! and
it took me half a year to find someone skilled enough to help me get rid of
those entitites. It was during these six months that I started to understand
phrases like "worse than death".) - Anyway, the point is that even if I am
not going near that shit again in the near future I am still curious when
someone has found a safer way to deal with those forces. "
=========
"I have very bad experience with Necronomicon.If you ask me,stay away from
it.
Yes,there is a lot of power in it,but the consequences can be very difficult
or at all not possible to be removed.
I know a person,who was involved in it.He is now possessed by the entities
he invoked.He has constant fears,that someone else is rushing
his aura,inner space,that someone is "stealing" "energy fragments" from
him etc.
Two friends of mine made scanning on him and discovered very deep posession.
2 or 3 years ago I evoked,with a friend of mine,Azatoth.I felt very
primitive energy.That's why I will not repeat this.
Another friend of mine told me,that the Necronomicon
entities(Azatoth,Khtulu),are egregors,i.e. they are created from the
collective human fears,anger etc.But they involve energy from the
chaos.That's why the consequences can very difficult be undone. "
=============
IMHO the Spell Book is dangerously constructed. Read carefully what you're
supposed to say to the spirits in the spell. You allow a force of unknown
origin to enter you - really not very smart.
Even worse, there is no banishing in the Spell, which basically means you
will walk around possessed afterwards. It is further really tricky to banish
the forces using the standard methods, even if you have them down pat.
==============
And yes I know about the watchers, I was almost killed by one. When I was a
"dabbler" I conjured the watcher to protect the cirlce while I worked with
one of the spirits in the nec. I didnt offer the correct sacrifices the the
watchers, and didnt do the conjuration of the fire. After all was done I did
the LBRP pretty flippenly (this was 3 years ago, and for 1 year after this I
didnt even say the word "occult) I stepped out of the circle only to see a
shadowy figure charge at me. I felt like I was goin to have a heart attack
and got VERY dizzy I then had a panic attack and my mind went totally blank.
I heard a voice as crearly as I hear my mom talking to me now to "GET BACK
IN THE DAMN CIRCLE" I quickly jumped back in and shouted to the heavens "MY
GOD KNOWN AS THE FOUR LETTER WORD, PLEASE I BEG OF YOU TO SAVE ME SAINT
GABRIEL PLEASE HELP ME!" I then got my bearings about me and shouted the
invokation against spirits who attack the circle. I did the LBRP again and
the BRH. I was alright after that, and it was a year until I again got back
into cerimonial magick, or any magick for that matter. So yes, I know the
full deadliness of the watchers. You can flame me all you want for what
happened to me, but in retrospect I am happy that that happened to me. It
gave me a sence of what can happen to those who dabble. Im real eager about
walking the first gate, but im approaching it one stride at a time, trying
to get every single think right.
============
Yeah. Oh, buddy, if you find yourself getting accidentally possessed, while
using rituals, there is a thread on exorcism techniques in the Off Topic:
Occult forum. This is a just in case scenario.
If your possed how would you have the will to exorcise your self hitman?
==================
A really dark spell?
--
Jim